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Martin Robinson on Revival

Monday, December 5th, 2005

This afternoon I listened to Martin Robinson’s presentation on revival at the recent Generous Orthodoxy conference. I downloaded the podcast from Conversatio Fide. It’s a 29 mb file that has a bit of airconditioning hum in it - but I managed to hear everything Martin says.

Martin challenges the hope held out by many speakers that if we pray we’ll cross a threshold and that evangelism and discipleship will be much easier. He unpacks the ‘revival myth’ by looking at the impact (or lack of impact) of the 18th Century revival in Britain. He points out that the diaries of Wesley indicate a continual struggle to connect with the people of Britain. In terms of numbers the Wesleyan revival was actually quite small. Christian leaders in England continued to struggle with declining church attendance and anational lawmakers that paid little attention to matters of faith or morality. The reality faced by people in the middle of a revival was continued hard slog.

The architecture of a revival (as outlined by Martin):
1. Weird and wonderful behaviour - as in Toronto Blessing. I thought of the review of revivals written up in John White’s book, “When the Spirit Came in Power“.
2. The development of new denominations designed to cater for the new fervour and behaviour.
3. The impact of fervour on mainstream churches and leaders.
4. The development of partnership between churches as they engage in community transformation.

Martin finishes his presentation with two alternative scenarios for the year 2050:

1. Christians have continued to become so separated from the world that they have become something of the past that people want to leave behind, along the lines of Zoroastrianism.

2. Christians have engaged in their communities as ‘future makers’ in ways that have inspired others to follow suit.

The presentation continued with dialogue with members of the conference.

Martin was born in India of missionary parents. His father became a church planter, initially in Scotland and then later in England. Martin trained for the ministry in his late teens and early twenties, with the Associated Churches of Christ, I believe. His first church was in inner city Birmingham. That congregation helped to plant a number of congregations and Martin became the minister of one of those church plants in suburban Birmingham. In 1987 he went to work for the Bible Society, initially as Church Growth Consultant and more recently as Director of Mission and Theology. Martin left the Bible Society in August 2002 to become the National Director for Together in Mission.

Martin has written ten books on mission, especially in a western context. These include, Planting Tomorrow’s Churches Today (with Stuart Christine), The Faith of the Unbeliever, and Winning Hearts, Changing Minds. More recent books include “The Passion and the Cross: Why did Jesus have to die? “, “Invading Secular Space : Strategies for Tomorrow’s Church“. His book “Planting Mission-shaped Churches Today”, comes out in January 2006.

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Gordon Atkinson - Real Live Preacher

Friday, September 2nd, 2005

Real Live Preacher Gordon AtkinsonMeet Gordon Atkinson, online journalist known as “Real Live Preacher”. Gordon’s a Baptist minister from Covenant Baptist Church in San Antonio, Texas, USA. In December 2002 Gordon started an anonymous blog with Salon.com, exploring honest questions and doubts and unpacking the stresses of working for the church. One of his first posts spells it out…

“I have a kind of love/hate relationship with the church and I’d like to air some things out. I’m intrigued at the idea of folks with a different worldview engaging me in some way. I know this � it can get lonely in the pulpit. Folks in church expect a lot of things from their pastor. Gut-level honesty is NOT one of them. Don’t get me wrong, the folks in my church are as nice as they come, but let’s face it, they don’t want to hear the pastor’s deepest doubts and fears.”

Last year Gordon revealed his identity and location, coming clean with his own congregation and the world. He published the book, “RealLivePreacher.com” with Eerdmans in October. He’s now working on an audio book based on a Christmas story he posted in 2003. Real Live Preacher the blog has become an online community with registered users taking part in forums and starting new threads.

I’ve followed Gordon’s blog for a while now. I’ve appreciated his honesty in coming to terms with depression. I’ve enjoyed his use of art by Marianist brother Steve Erspamer (available on CD from Liturgy Training Publications). And I enjoyed hearing him talk on the Open Source Radio podcast, “God 2.0

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Podcast on Heaven

Saturday, August 27th, 2005

I’ve put up my third podcast at PostKiwi Podcasts - on heaven.

It’s a 50 minute dialogue from Logan Uniting Church, Sunday evening, August 21, 2005. (16 MB) mp3 file.This was part of worship.com, a worship experience aimed at young adults.

We started with three TV adverts, including the Carlton Draught Big Ad, DB Heaven and God Tabasco. See notes from last weekend for input from Mercy Me and CS Lewis, “The Great Divorce”.

We broke up into groups for 10 minutes to brainstorm questions and imagery. The questions ranged from “What will we do in heaven?” to “What about people from other religions?” and “Will there be Playstation in heaven?”

Podcasting sermons is not as easy I thought it might be. First of all - there’s the quality of the tape. Using a lapel radio microphone leaves a bit of hiss. The hand held microphone seemed to produce a better quality sound. You could possibly put up with that in a high quality recording but when you get down to 16 or 32 bps the hiss turns into an annoying high pitch line of noise.

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